The Rise and Fall of Alexandria: Birthplace of the Modern Mind - Justin Pollard, Howard Reid

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  Hetaira
  June 13th, 2015
  

  Just a head’s up. I seed slowly, and I often turn my computer off for stretches of time. It will take awhile to get the whole book uploaded fully, but it’ll get there eventually.

  The Rise and Fall of Alexandria: Birthplace of the Modern Mind - Justin Pollard, Howard Reid
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  Sam
  June 13th, 2015
  

  Looks awesome thanks!

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  anansisan
  June 13th, 2015
  

  Thank you very much for this one. I’ve always wondered what the world might be like today if the ignorant Christians hadn’t destroyed the great library and we hadn’t lost all that knowledge.

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  Sam
  June 13th, 2015
  

  Christians did not destroy any libraries, if any religious sect did it would of been jews or muslims. Type in “Library history” on amazon for other epic looking books on history of libraries!

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  anansisan
  June 13th, 2015
  

  The temple of the Hellenistic-Egyptian god Serapis, which housed the Great Library in Alexandria, was destroyed by a Christian crowd or Roman soldiers in 391 A.D. after paganism was made illegal by an edict of the Emperor Theodosius I.

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serapeum#Destruction_of_the_Alexandrian_Serapeum

  This was before the creation of Islam and long after the Jewish Diapora.

  I’m sure it is covered in the book. It’s fun to learn stuff!

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  Pats
  June 13th, 2015
  

  To anansisan and Sam:

  As an avid lover of history you can depend on several things:

  1) True Christians don’t destroy. False christians - a christian in name only - do. ie: the vatican and its catholic priests did.

  2) Romans and other barbarians do.

  3) muslims are famous for invading and destroying anything and everything from art galleries to museums, etc. all you have to do is watch the news.

  4)And this is an important one: when a victor writes history, it is often re-written. Example when various popes have invaded, conquered, took hostages, tortured and destroyed they always made the martyrs and others innocents the ‘bad guys’.

  5) the catholic church was a divided church and so the western and eastern branches. Western popes did not marry, eastern popes did.

  Jews have NEVER destroyed anything. Any destruction has always come from invaders: Egyptians, Phoenicians, the various barbarian tribes including Philistine (the REAL name of the so-called ‘palestinians’) the Romans, and of course muslims.

  As a Christian who comes from a family of Christians and Jews - many of who died in WWII particularly offensive anansisan.

  You are making the same well-worn mistake a lot of people make and that is *assuming* Hellenist (Greeks) and Romans were Christian.

  They were NOT. The Term ‘christian’ was a term of convenience taken by a pagan Roman as a way to unite the empire his mother had founded, papered over all the pagan celebrations but gave them ‘christian-sounding- names. Those pagan celebrations are currently called Easter (for the goddess Ishtar) and Christmas (anciently called by various names, but celebrated the Saturnalia or Lupercalia, changed the true Sabbath on Saturday for Sunday worship and so on.

  http://rcg.org/books/ghdoph.html
  http://rcg.org/books/ttooe.html
  http://rcg.org/books/thogtc.html

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  Pats
  June 13th, 2015
  

  For anansisan:

  for you to have a better understand of what a Christian is or is not is to do some research:

  http://rcg.org/books/thogtc.html

  The early New Testament Church kept all of the doctrines and Holy Days that Christ kept - He - Christ led by example. Around the 50s AD, the Romish church began persecuting the little Church and it fled to Pella… an dispersed. After 100 years when the curtain of history was lifted the Romish church had taken to themselves the title of Christian…

  in order for you to know what the True Christian Church is and what the false Romish Catholic Church is, you’d need to to what the doctrines of each are, and they are diametrically opposite.

  http://rcg.org/books/thogtc.html

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  Hetaira
  June 13th, 2015
  

  So the gist of what you are saying Pats is that your chosen belief is the only one with the “real” facts, and everyone else is wrong?

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  marcodiluce
  June 13th, 2015
  

  I second Pats explanatory notes and do not find any attempt there to push a “chosen belief.”… And by the way, I do not share this or any other particular belief, not even atheism.

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  migotka21
  June 13th, 2015
  

  Pats, funny that you mention it. Christian holidays and so called “holy” days weren’t the same days Jesus revered, reason being he was born and raised in a completely different religion and he kept all the important days and holidays of his inherited religion. Also, “true” christians didn’t destroy, didn’t murder and so on. Wonder if you ever heard a name “Hypatia”.

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  anansisan
  June 13th, 2015
  

  “Jews have NEVER destroyed anything.”

  Really? You should read the Old Testament sometime…

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  Pats
  June 14th, 2015
  

  “Hetaira
  June 13th, 2015

  So the gist of what you are saying Pats is that your chosen belief is the only one with the “real” facts, and everyone else is wrong?”

  What I’m saying is this:

  1)Unless you can distintinguish between what is and what is not True Christianity, you are going to make ignorant (meaning not knowing) comments because you haven’t got the foundation of research and knowledge to make an accurate observation.

  2) What you are suggesting is moral relativism - which is something that has been taught by left-leaning teachers and professors who, themselves are either agnostic or atheist, and who mistakenly think one religion is no different than another because they have been too intellectually lazy to do real research. They’ll get get some idea into their heads and their minds instantly snap shut.

  3) It is God who decides what is right or wrong, good or evil, holy or profane. As a real Christian who follows exactly what Christ taught, and what the early New Testament Church was taught by Him, I can dismiss all other religions including paganism, witchraft and sorcery, voodoo and zombies and all the other stuff that seems to be so popular.

  4) The 10 Commandments were given for everyone. Not just Christians, not just Jews - which incidently are one tribe of the 13 tribe House of Israel known collectively as Hebrews. Moses was given the 2 tablets of stone for all humanity. For God to make separate rules and separate religions is chaos and confusion and God is not the author of confusion.

  For migotka21 - you are correct in that He was born a Jew from the royal tribe of Judah. But if you check his geneological lines from his mother, they diverge backwards and contain all the 13 tribes of the house of Israel.

  Nope - never heard of the name ‘Hypatia’.

  For anansisan.

  I do read the Old Testament. I’ve studied the OT and the NT for almost 40 years now. What’s your point? The NT teachings were based on the OT.

  Your anti-semitism is showing. And ignorance can be cured with research. I’ve done mine for over 40 years, and was baptised 38 years ago after having done two years of intensive research as was written to ‘Prove all things, hold fast that which is good.’( 1Thes 5: 21)

  So Hetaira to answer your question:

  Yes. My belief is the only belief with real facts having proven them with intense research.

  And yes to the second part of your question to the degree with my research has proven the veracity of which is the true God-inspired religion and all else is false.

  A side note: I find it fascinating that the very people who dump all over Christianity are utterly confused and ignorant as to what constitutes real God-inspired doctrine, and what is paganism disguised as Christianity such as catholicism which has its roots in pagan Egypt and Mesopotamia.

  I also find it revealing that those people who prefer to slam Christianity are intriguingly silent when it comes to the international butchery known as islam. Somehow islam is the darling of the left-leaning people who refuse to study, to determine, to prove the evil of islam and the difference between True Christianity and the false christianty that is just like the wolf hiding in sheep’s clothing.

  Oh and anansisan - you made an error in judgement in assuming I don’t know anything about the OT. I know a lot more of what is in Scripture than you might think.

  But as I mentioned above… there are a few URLs you can check to see for yourself the veracity of my statements. There are sermons too on the site that you could download and learn from - just like an audio book.

  Happy researching :)

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  migotka21
  June 14th, 2015
  

  So what is your point, Pats? I am to check the genealogy of Jesus and discover that his mother was a Jew but a different type of Jew so her inherited holidays (holidays observed by her relatives and ancestry who came from 13 tribes but his father/supposed father came from only 1 tribe) were different from the holidays Jesus inherited from his father/supposed father if one assumes a god was his father? I truly don’t understand your POV here. What could additional 12 tribes change?

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  Hetaira
  June 15th, 2015
  

  My goodness. I don’t even know where to start with that Pat.

  I’m glad you found your thing, and are rocking it for all it’s worth. I’ll go back to being amazed by the natural world, and the scientific discoveries made by looking closely at it. I’ll go ahead and keep my copies of the bible next to the other mythological texts on my library shelves where it belongs. You keep digging on your chosen sky-daddy to make your impending mortality a little easier to tolerate.

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  anansisan
  June 15th, 2015
  

  “Your anti-semitism is showing.”

  Oh, eff off you dishonest person. How can reading what my ancient ancestors wrote about their own deeds be considered anti-semitic? Sheesh.

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  Hetaira
  June 15th, 2015
  

  Wait a sec, isn’t one of the 10 commandments - Thou shalt not steal?!

  Pat, you do realize that you are breaking one of your rules every single time you download an audiobook from this site?

  The hypocrisy is strong within this post.

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• 
  Valen
  June 15th, 2015
  

  Let’s stop all the fighting, shall we? This is why a lot of people are turned off organised religion in the first place.

  Surely the most important thing to take from the story of Alexandria is that it is that the destruction of the Library is an event that should never have happened and is (and always will be) a tragedy? It doesn’t really matter who did it - it was wrong. Equally wrong, however, is turning this tragedy into another reason for religious conflict. Religion is something personal, a personal connection with whatever God or whatever you believe in and worship. Organised religion means nothing.

  The story of Alexandria is a lesson from history that untold knowledge can be destroyed so easily by the most stupid acts of vandalism.

  The lesson from this argument is that religion can be a source of great strength for believers but can also be a source of contention and intolerance that this world really could do without as there is enough of both already. So, for the love of whatever deity you believe in, why don’t you just agree to disagree and move on?

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  Pats
  June 17th, 2015
  

  Wow. Lots of ignorant anti-Christian and anti-Semite comments. So much for the liberal’s vaunted - and theoretical acceptance and tolerance! *smirk*

  It is not up to me to prove the existence of God or the veracity of the Bible. It is you who claim it is just more fiction to prove me wrong.

  There is an old saying in law - he who alleges a thing must therefore also prove it. Which is why when there’s trial the DA has to prove the allegations against the defendant and not the other way around.

  I cannot and will not be able to condense decades of research into a few pithy sentences to satisfy those of you who think one God is like other gods, no more or no less. It is up to you to prove me wrong.

  “Eff off”? How very tolerant of you! -Not! (laughing) Go ahead and keep showing how tolerant you are of other people’s ideas.

  But your tacit approval of islam and silence about its 1400 year history of bloodshed is quite revealing. Have you taken a look at why Christopher Columbus had to set sail in 1492? Does the term Barbary Coast ring a bell? Corsair? Kidnapping off the horn of Africa? the bombing of Embassies, ships and the Twin Towers, the Pentagon and a field in which a commandeered aircraft drilled a large hole killing all aboard - 9/11, 7/11, the wars and conquests in Europe, Spain taken over by muslims, why certain pastries are shaped like a crescent, the killing of the Ambassador in Benghazi… any of this ring any bells? the bombing of synagogs in Europe, Charlie Hebdo etc? Piss Christ? The virgin Mary coated in elephant dung in pornographic pictures? Hello?

  Of course it’s easier to point fingers at Christianity. You do it because you know it’s safer.

  “Wait a sec, isn’t one of the 10 commandments - Thou shalt not steal?!

  Pat, you do realize that you are breaking one of your rules every single time you download an audiobook from this site?

  The hypocrisy is strong within this post.

  No dear it is not stealing any more that borrowing a book from a library or making photocopies from books (recipes, cross stitch etc). Do the various authors know you are uploading their works to the world at large and being denied their royalties? If you want to try to point at finger at me, look to yourself first.

  Borrow, use, return. Download, listen, delete. No-one is making money from this.

  And by the way the laws are such that downloading is not considered illegal (in North America. I don’t know about elsewhere). The *uploading* of materials is considered illegal.

  I have noticed that a favorite expression is to use the term ‘hater’ when someone has an opposing point of view. Silly really, it’s just an opposing point of view but here the term really fits: there are a lot of haters slamming Christianity and Judaism, all based on ignorance (meaning not knowing.)

  Cheers! It was a most interesting discussion.

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• 
  autechre113
  June 18th, 2015
  

  @Pats. It is you who makes the claim about the existence of god. Just like the DA makes the claim about someones guild, he has to prove it, not the defendant. So your old saying is true: - he who alleges a thing must therefore also prove it. You allege your believe is true and your god exists, prove it. It’s not up to me, otherwise fairies and unicorns and other gods are just as viable in your logic. You choose to believe the bible and its claims. The only thing you can fall back on is that it all comes down to faith, there is no objective prove. If a christianity is to command respect it should earn it, with evidence. I don’t respect a belief simply because it is deeply held by people.

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  zly6t
  June 21st, 2015
  

  Pats, we apparently share very little in the way of opinion or belief, but you like my shares and have consistently been polite in thanking me, which I have appreciated. I am very surprised to see you being so rude to others here. I hope you divert some of that energy toward contributing books for the community, like the people you are criticizing.

  Hetaira, thank you for the share!

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  Pats
  September 19th, 2015
  

  @autechre113 - I know God exists however there is nothing I can say or do to satisfy your criteria of ‘proof’. It is not up to me to prove anything to your satisfaction,as there is nothing a Christian could ever say to you definitively proving God’s existence.You’d keep on denying or claiming there’s still not enough proof for you. It would a fool’s errand.

  It is up to you to prove Christians wrong. It is up to you to disprove God’s existence - And you won’t be able to do that, not without understanding the context of the invasions and wars the muslims have been fighting for 14 centuries now. You won’t be able to do this without first having an in depth Bible study and to use that research as a foundation for other facts….including what constitutes Christianity and asking if that is the same as Biblical, Scripture Christianity - than researching what God and Christ taught back in the OT and NT and matching it all up with what’s happening now, asking if what passes for ‘christianity’ today is christian (no it’s not, it’s pagan to the core) and the many ways it differs from the True Church of God, True Christianity.

  I have done my research for just under 40 years now, and the truth of the matter is is this- a true christian including myself doesn’t need your approbation or acceptance of my faith, I certainly don’t need to win your trust that’s based on ephemerial criteria.

  @zly6t: I’m not rude. I just don’t put up with political correctness and attacks by people who wouldn’t be able to recognized God’s One True Church by doctrines without mistakenly thinking all religions are the same, all forms of pagan christianity is equal to the one true religion God instituted with the ancient Hebrews and whose Church in both OT and NT times are consistant, and whose doctrines have never changed.

  This research has been extensive and has gone over 38 years now and still learning.

  PS: If I knew how to safely, anonymously contribute books without a nosey ISP all over it, I’d love to do it as I have some books worth sharing.

  PPS: Don’t make the mistake in assuming that because I disagree with someone point of view or their favorite genres of books doesn’t mean I’m being rude. It is a difference of opinion. Nothing more, nothing less. People should stop getting their knickers in such twists so easily.

  Perhaps those people to whom you think I am being rude should just realise a difference of opinion is precisely that - an exercise in the First Amendment and those people should stop being so politically correct and sensitive.

  Christianity has become the ‘villian’. It’s too easy to dump on Christ and His followers yet people are terrified or deceived into thinking islam is “wonderful, people” etc except they are homicidal maniac doing their best to kill off everyone they don’t agree with.

  Look at how their invading Europe - this isn’t some stupid refuge crises - they’re militany muslim men literally causing havoc. They are not members of a peaceful religion. Islam is the mind of the devil writ large for the worle to see.

  As for rudeness - when aimed at me i aim it back. There’s always room for disagreement but I’ll be damned if Christianity is made out to be an equivalent to islam or any kind of violent, satanic religion.

  Finally - if someone could show/tell me how to safely upload books I’d be glad to share, I have quite a few now! :)

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  Within
  June 7th, 2021
  

  Need re Seed!

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